Dialogue on Socialism

Paul Kwon writes: “Socialism is against natural state of law.

It teaches everybody should be happy. Pure cow droppings. Only a few are destined to be happy. All others are destined to hard labor for life by Mother Nature.

Socialism keeps hopeless individuals alive long enough to deplete the world’s dwindling resources even further.

Few ideologies have disrupted the world more than Socialism. Nazi Germany built a bunch of pleasure domes in Italy and Burgundy to be used by loyal party members. Pure swine excrements.

Ancient Eastern Kingdoms were truly efficient. The only pay the soldiers received was whatever they could loot in enemy territory. It was their “leisure” trips as well. It was also like that in Europe for quite a while.

Now the socialists tell us to puke back whatever we took from biped territories. They somehow think the bipeds have the same rights as humans.

Pure chicken scheiss.

It’s shame that socialism was invented before colonialism. Some socialists got into the colonial bureaucracy. They were somehow able to exercise enough power to let the higher-ups think that the bipeds were humans.

Now, the same people are keeping the bipeds in major Western cities alive. I must question their sanity somehow.

Evolution takes no prisoners. If we don’t get rid of our greatest cancer, the socialists, sooner enough Mother Nature will probably make the decision that cockroaches can manage the world better than humans.

Arthur Noll responds:

“Socialism is against natural state of law.”

Really?!  We are social animals.  No human can manage to live totally alone, a fact you can test by trying it.  Take away every artifact you have not made in total by yourself,  and give it a go.  The truth is just the opposite, natural law says that human beings are inherently socialist. Just as separate twigs won’t burn, but together you can get a nice fire, that is the state of humanity.  Some arrangements of twigs will burn better than others, also the state of humanity.

“It teaches everybody should be happy. Pure cow droppings. Only a few are destined to be happy. All others are destined to hard labor for life by Mother Nature.”

Given the current general mental state of humanity, driven by instincts adapted for the stone age, struggling against logic that says to behave differently from these instincts, few find a place to be happy, and they are not likely to stay that way.  Humanity is in a tremendous state of flux, it isn’t a happy state. That doesn’t mean that those who survive cannot find an “arrangement of the twigs”, that has the great majority burning brightly.

Cow droppings are quite nice for making the grass grow again, also make good plaster. Good stuff, too often maligned. 🙂

“Socialism keeps hopeless individuals alive long enough to deplete the world’s dwindling resources even further.”

We have tried many different forms of society, none that I’m aware of have made a conscious effort to keep population and resource use in balance. Primitive tribes often lived in unconscious balance.  I don’t see anything that rules out the possibility of a society that consciously lives in balance.  I have the awareness to do it, I don’t see this awareness as common, but I’m certainly not alone.

“Few ideologies have disrupted the world more than Socialism. Nazi Germany built a bunch of pleasure domes in Italy and Burgundy to be used by loyal party members. Pure swine excrements.”

The Nazis were one of the social experiments that was especially deeply flawed.  They failed. Few want to try it again.  We are all socialist in the deepest sense of the word, yet hardly anyone is a Nazi. I find it very curious that you find it “the law” that some will be happy in life, the others are doomed to unhappy hard labor, to be considered expendable, this is what the Nazis did , yet you criticize how disruptive they were to the world?  Make up your mind.

“Ancient Eastern Kingdoms were truly efficient. The only pay the soldiers received was whatever they could loot in enemy territory. It was their “leisure” trips as well. It was also like that in Europe for quite a while.”

Mm.  Again, sounds similar to the Nazis.  Again, make up your mind what you think is good.

“Now the socialists tell us to puke back whatever we took from biped territories. They somehow think the bipeds have the same rights as humans.”

Ah, is this is really about keeping your wealth, milked out of the masses?

“Pure chicken scheiss.”

I’ve been told the nitrates in that can be explosive.  So can abusing the masses.

“It’s shame that socialism was invented before colonialism. Some socialists got into the colonial bureaucracy. They were somehow able to exercise enough power to let the higher-ups think that the bipeds were humans.”

People drunk on wealth and power are always confused about how to take care of the people they’ve stolen from and abused.  They wouldn’t have wealth and power without them, so they can’t get rid of them, they are terrified that they might go too far in the abuse and end up dead, like happened in the French Revolution and in countless other revolts.  These poor people live in constant fear and confusion about right and wrong, like a drug addict, they resolve to quit, can’t, go back to abusing the body of humanity, resolve to stop again, simply have to have the wealth, they are a mess.

“Now, the same people are keeping the bipeds in major Western cities alive. I must question their sanity somehow.”

Yes, the current dominate mental state is not sane.  As I wrote above, it is the mentality of addiction.

“Evolution takes no prisoners. If we don’t get rid of our greatest cancer, the socialists, sooner enough Mother Nature will probably make the decision that cockroaches can manage the world better than humans.”

Nature will get rid of confused thinking.  People that see things that aren’t there, like having faith in miracles of mysticism, or of science fiction, or are mentally driven to have things that they really don’t need, aren’t fit.  The move the wrong way, fall in holes they couldn’t see. People of similar mind tend to band together, unfit societies will get weeded out. Extinction is a possibility, nothing sacred about us that I can see. Of course, people who have faith in miracles of one sort or another, can say that I don’t know for sure. Ok, you bet your life and take your chances.  I don’t bet my life on dreams.  Those who feel the same way could join with me. Those who want to bet on dreams, you better start making them come true.

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